How to Respond to the “New Atheism”

How to Respond to the “New Atheism”

Ridicule of religion is the ethos of many modern unbelievers

Retrieve from: http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/how-to-respond-to-the-new-atheism

In C. S. Lewis’s novel That Hideous Strength there is a scene where the non-religious protagonist, Mark, is instructed as “part of an exercise” to trample an image of a large crucifix. Because Mark is not a Christian, he is puzzled as to why he should bother with this exercise and not just leave this silly superstition alone. The professor who is leading the exercise tells Mark, “Of course it is a superstition: but it is that particular superstition which has pressed upon our society for many centuries. . . . An explicit action in the reverse direction is therefore a necessary step towards complete objectivity” (ch. 15). In other words, if religion is to be purged from society it cannot simply be ignored; it has to be ridiculed.

Lewis’s novel, published in 1945, was set in the future. Nearly seventy years later, that future is our present, and the author’s descriptions of religious ridicule pale in comparison to the current mockeries of Christianity found on the Internet. Yet while the vileness of the ridicule has increased, the attitude embodied by the professor remains the same. The best way to see how Lewis’s fiction has become prophecy is to contrast the “Old Atheism” with what some have called the “New Atheism.”

The “Old Atheism”

Throughout most of the twentieth century, public profession of atheism was synonymous with communism or the endorsement of totalitarianism. In a 1961 episode of The Twilight Zone titled “The Obsolete Man,” a librarian in a police state is executed for the crime of believing in God. Ultimately the librarian (portrayed wonderfully by the late Burgess Meredith) turns the tables on his executioner, but the image of a believer being crushed under the jackboot of totalitarian atheism was, at the time, not mere fiction. In his 1967 memoir,Tortured for Christ, Richard Wurmbrand describes how Soviet guards would tell prisoners, “I thank God in whom I don’t believe. Now I may indulge the evil in my heart” (p. 34).

These horror stories may have something to do with atheism’s low approval ratings. Gallup compared two polls conducted in 1958 and 2012 about people’s unwillingness to elect certain minorities to the U.S. presidency. In 1958, 38 percent were willing to elect an African-American and 18 percent were willing to elect an atheist. In 2012, while 96 percent were willing to elect an African-American, only 54 percent were willing to elect an atheist (Jeffrey Jones, “Atheists, Muslims See Most Bias as Presidential Candidates,” Gallup Polling, June 21, 2012).

Faced with such dismal levels of public approval, atheists felt the need to show believers that they were good people and not amoral communists. Beginning in the 1970s, the philosopher Paul Kurtz promoted what he called “secular humanism,” which focused on promoting human well-being without religion rather than converting people to atheism. Secular humanists even praised religion for its beneficial effects on society.

The Second Humanist Manifesto affirmed, “In the best sense, religion may inspire dedication to the highest ethical ideals.” The Manifesto went on to point out that while religion can hinder society, so can many nonreligious ideologies that are not based on humanism (Paul Kurtz and Edwin H. Wilson, “Humanist Manifesto II,” 1973). But this attitude of congenial disagreement changed for many people on September 11, 2001.

The “New Atheism”

I remember getting ready for school on that fateful day when my dad ran into my bedroom and turned on the television. Because I went to high school in Arizona, the attacks were in progress by the time I woke up. I stared in disbelief as the news replayed over and over again the surreal sight of the World Trade Center collapsing into a pile of dust. How could 19 human beings (the 9/11 hijackers) do something so terrible? The answer from the New Atheists was simple: Religion alone has the power to cause people to do such terrible things.

In 2004 American atheist Sam Harris, after reflecting on the September 11 terrorist attacks, published The End of Faith. In the book, Harris argued that religion is a form of mental illness and not part of a rational worldview. He writes, “[I]t is difficult to imagine a set of beliefs more suggestive of mental illness than those that lie at the heart of many of our religious traditions.” (p. 70). In 2006 British biologist Richard Dawkins went so far as to claim that religious education for children is child abuse: “Even without physical abduction, isn’t it always a form of child abuse to label a child a possessor of beliefs that they are too young to have thought about?” (The God Delusion, p. 354). These books were followed by others, such as Christopher Hitchens’ God Is Not Great and philosopher Daniel Dennett’s Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomenon. Before Hitchens died in 2011, these authors were known as the “four horsemen” of the “New Atheism.”

What made these atheists “new” weren’t their arguments against religion but their attitude that religion should be reviled. At the 2012 “Reason Rally,” about 10,000 atheists gathered on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., where Dawkins instructed them regarding Christians: “Mock them, ridicule them in public. . . . Don’t fall for the convention that we’re all too polite to talk about religion” (Lillian Kwon, “Atheists Rally for Reason; Urged to Mock the Religious,” The Christian Post, March 24, 2012).

Ridiculing religion

To be fair, there are atheists who do not see religion as a bad thing and don’t support ridicule as a way to combat it. Atheistic philosopher Walter Sinnott-Armstrong writes, “Like law, science, art, and guns, religion is a powerful tool that can be used for great good as well as for great evil. I have no desire to obstruct the benefits of religion” (William Lane Craig and Walter Sinnott-Armstrong, God? A Debate Between a Christian and an Atheist, 82).But other atheists think this “accommodation” is dangerous. Harris writes, “I hope to show that the very ideal of religious tolerance—born of the notion that every human being should be free to believe whatever he wants about God—is one of the principal forces driving us toward the abyss” (The End of Faith, 15).

Most atheists do not want the government to outlaw religious belief, but they do want government to no longer be associated with it. One common tactic is to file lawsuits to ban the display of nativity scenes or crosses on public land. When that strategy fails, some atheists opt for a “heckler’s veto.” In a recent case, the city of Santa Monica had hosted a life-size nativity display in Palisades Park since 1953, which earned it the nickname “City of the Christmas Story.” In 2011, atheist Damon Vix encouraged other atheists to apply for booths in the park so that of the twenty-one available spaces nearly all were reserved for atheist displays dedicated to parodies of religion. These included displays that paid homage to the “Flying Spaghetti Monster” (the deity of the parody religion Pastafarianism) and compared Jesus to Santa Claus and the ancient Greek god Poseidon. The latter display included the sign “37 million Americans know MYTHS when they see one. What myths do you see?”

In response to the controversy, the city of Santa Monica banned all private displays from Palisades Park and the ban has been upheld in Federal Court. Vix later said, “If I had another goal it would be to remove the ‘under God’ phrase from the Pledge of Allegiance—but that’s a little too big for me to take on for right now” (Doug Stanglin, “U.S. judge blocks Nativity displays in Santa Monica” USA Today, Nov. 19, 2012).

Another atheist group that uses the strategy of public ridicule is the American Atheists. They are a national group that sponsors billboards with messages such as “Christianity: Sadistic God; Useless Savior.” When asked about the controversy about the billboards, the group’s president, David Silverman, said, “I respect people; I respect humans. I do not respect religion. And I do not respect the idea that religion deserves respect” (Dan Merica, “Atheist organizer takes ‘movement’ to nation’s capital,” CNN Belief Blog, March 23, 2012).

The Internet: The church of atheism

One popular way atheists ridicule religion is through the use of Internet memes, or ideas that spread through a population like viruses. These are usually ironic oversimplifications of religious doctrines that are designed to make the doctrines look silly. One popular meme depicts Jesus with rotting flesh and glowing red eyes along with the caption, “Christianity: the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically accept him as your master . . . yeah, makes perfect sense.”

Besides allowing memes spread at an exponential rate, the Internet has provided a community for atheists to interact with one another. Christians have always had community at their churches, but prior to the invention of the Internet atheists could only hope to run into each other in the Nietzsche section of the local used book store. But now atheists’ presence on the Internet dwarfs that of their religious counterparts.

The popular forum website Reddit, which describes itself as the “front page” of the Internet, has various “subreddits” that are devoted to different communities. At the time of this writing, the Catholic “subreddit” has about 5,000 subscribers, the Christian subreddit has about 50,000 subscribers, but the atheism subredditt has more than 1.4 million subscribers. Keep in mind that Catholics make up about 25 percent of the population, non-Catholic Christians make up about 50 percent of the population, but atheists make up only three percent of the population. While some net-savvy Catholics have harnessed the evangelistic power of memes and other internet tools such as blogging, they still have a lot of catching up to do. To quote Mark Twain, “A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth has time to put its shoes on.”

Being gentle and blameless

How should Catholics respond to atheist ridicule? First, because critics of the Church sometimes use ridicule does not mean Catholics have a license to do the same. 1 Peter 3:15-16 says, “[B]ut in your hearts reverence Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to make a defense to anyone who calls you to account for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and reverence;
and keep your conscience clear so that, when you are abused, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. ”

On a recent Catholic Answers Live radio show an atheist caller claimed that the reason I was Catholic was because my mother taught it to me and I blindly accepted what she told me. I corrected the caller gently and told him that my mother is not Catholic and I was in fact a convert to the Catholic Church. He apologized and we continued our discussion over whether or not atheism is true. This is a good example of using charity so that others may “themselves be put to shame” when they defame us.

Watch out for smelly fish

Second, Catholics should be ready to give a well-reasoned answer to the arguments put forward by atheists. Several books and media resources are available to help Catholics answer atheist arguments with objective tools like science and philosophy. My own book on the subject, Answering Atheism, is due out this year. Unfortunately, when some atheists are confronted with thoughtful arguments for the existence of God they will take the low road in discourse and attack our faith instead of attacking the arguments used to defend it.

For example, if you present scientific evidence for God (such as the universe’s beginning in time) an atheist might say, “But what about all the scientists, like Galileo, that the Church has persecuted?” If you present objective moral truths as evidence of an objective moral law-giver an atheist might say, “But what about the Crusades, or the sex-abuse scandals, or the fact that the Bible condones slavery and genocide!”

As you can see, these arguments have nothing to do with the existence of God. Instead, they are designed to lead you away from that topic and keep the debate focused on an irrelevant detail. In logic this type of gambit is a fallacy called a “red herring.” The name comes from the practice of dragging a smelly fish called a herring across a game trail. This was done so that the hunting dogs could practice not being distracted by other scents and instead stay focused on the object of the hunt. You should take a lesson from the dogs and stay focused when people present these red herring arguments. Simply respond, “That may be true, but which premise of my argument for the existence of God do these facts refute? How would these facts show there isn’t a God?”

But along with strong, well-focused arguments, 1 Peter 3:15-16 requires that our defense of the faith must be so charitable that we are beyond reproach if atheists criticize us. The Catechism of the Catholic Church points out that atheists may be less morally responsible for their atheism because they were poorly evangelized by believers. Quoting Gaudium et Spes, the Catechism states:

The imputability of [atheism] can be significantly diminished in virtue of the intentions and the circumstances. “Believers can have more than a little to do with the rise of atheism. To the extent that they are careless about their instruction in the faith, or present its teaching falsely, or even fail in their religious, moral, or social life, they must be said to conceal rather than to reveal the true nature of God and of religion” (CCC 2125).

What not to do

A recent case where Christians concealed rather than revealed God’s love can be found in the recent controversy surrounding high school student Jessica Ahlquist. Ahlquist, who was a student at Cranston West High School in Rhode Island, spoke publicly in favor of removing a 47-year-old banner from the school auditorium that was emblazoned with religious phrases like “Our Heavenly Father” and “Amen.” In 2011 the American Civil Liberty Union, with Ahlquist as plaintiff, sued to have the banner removed. Ultimately the district court ruled in favor of Ahlquist.

Members of the community who supported keeping the banner, many of whom described themselves as Protestant Christians or Catholics, expressed extreme hostility toward Ahlquist, who described herself as an atheist. Three local flower shops refused to deliver flowers that were purchased for her. Police were dispatched to escort Ahlquist between classes because she had received death threats. State Rep.PeterPalumbo called Ahlquist an “evil little thing” in a local radio interview (Abby Goodnough, “Student Faces Town’s Wrath in Protest Against a Prayer,” The New York Times, Jan. 26, 2012).

While it is acceptable to have a civil debate about the constitutionality of prayer in public schools, the bullying of a teenage girl by adult Christians is a sheer embarrassment for the Body of Christ. It should serve as a lesson to follow the words of Jesus when he says, “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust” (Matt. 5:44-45).

The real enemy

Finally, we should have confidence that the Church will survive attacks from atheists, just as it has survived similar attacks throughout history. During the French Revolution the altar at the historic Notre Dame cathedral was torn down and replaced with an altar dedicated to Liberty. The inscription “To Philosophy” was carved over the massive cathedral doors. But in the next century France would give rise to saints like Thérèse of Lisieux and John Vianney. After World War II, the Communist party gained control of Poland, seized Church property, and imprisoned thousands of priests. But after the Iron Curtain fell the Church began to flourish and now nearly 90 percent of Poland is Catholic.

Jesus said to Peter that the powers of death would not prevail against the Church (Matt. 16:18), and Paul said that no force, natural or supernatural, could ever separate us from the love of God (Rom. 8:38-39). Instead of obsessively worrying about atheist mockery that makes the Church look ridiculous, we should take steps to not become ignorant or offensive Christians who accomplish the same thing. We would do well to remember the immortal words of one Pogo Possum, who said, “We have met the enemy and he is us.” Fortunately, if we kill this “enemy,” what we actually kill is what Paul called “the old self” (Col. 3:9), and in dying to this self we will rise with new life in Christ and be able to face any attacks, verbal, physical or spiritual, our critics lob at us.


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After his conversion to the Catholic faith, Trent Horn pursued an undergraduate degree in history from Arizona State University.  He then earned a graduate degree in theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville and is currently pursuing a graduate degree in philosophy from Holy Apostles…

CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDERS OF QUEZON CITY INITIATED

CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDERS OF QUEZON CITY INITIATED

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DECEMBER 28, 2014 – ATTY. MARWIL N. LLASOS, OP initiated the formation of theQUEZON CITY CHAPTER of CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDERS (CFD) on the Feast of the Holy Family (first Sunday after Christmas) and also the Feast of the Holy Innocents. The date is very significant because the new CFD Chapter has the distinct charism of defending and protecting traditional Catholic and Filipino family values as well as the sanctity of human life from conception to natural death. Incidentally, the date is the 39th birthday of Atty. Marwil Llasos and the 10th sacerdotal anniversary of REV. FR. ABRAHAM P. ARGANIOSA, the honorary national adviser of CFD.

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CFD Coordinator for Luzon Atty. Marwil N. Llasos explains the rationale for the initiation of CFD Quezon City Chapter

The initial meeting of CFD QC was held from 1:00 in the afternoon at Mother Francisca Formation Hall, Sta. Catalina Convent, Siena College Quezon City. Atty. Marwil Llasos is a faculty member of Siena College Quezon City.

The meeting started with the praying of the Holy Rosary. It was followed by the introduction of the attendees which numbered around 50. They mentioned their involvement in Church ministries and their background in Catholic apologetics. Members of the Children of Light Catholic Community as well as the production staff of Know the Truthheaded by Bro. Peter Gracia III attended the meeting.

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Know the Truth producer Bro. Peter Garcia III attends the initial meeting of CFD Quezon City

Thereafter, Atty. Marwil Llasos mentioned the rationale for the initiation of a Quezon City Chapter of CFD. As a long-time member of CFD, having been the Legal Adviser of CFD-Davao and the duly-authorized Coordinator of CFD for Luzon, Atty. Llasos helped in the initiation of CFD Chapters in Nueva Ecija, Tarlac and Bulacan. The CFD National Office, through the CFD National President Engr. Ramon M. Gitamondoc, appointed Atty. Llasos as “coordinator and trainor in the field of apologetics” for Luzon. The CFD National Office fully gave him the “right and authority to initiate, form and organize Chapters as well as to train, form and organize fellow workers for promoting the Bible apostolate in all types of organizations, Church-based or otherwise.” He is “required to submit all names of all members who have undergone proper training and make a timely report on all significant activities and seminars through the Catholic Faith Defenders Inc. National Office.”

Pursuant to the said mandate, and in obedience to the leadership of CFD National Office, Atty. Marwil Llasos organized the Quezon City Chapter of CFD with the assistance of Mr. Manuel Protacio, CFD National Board Member and the blessing of Fr. Abe Arganiosa, the honorary national adviser of CFD.

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Bro. Hendrick Albina mentions his involvement in Catholic apologetics

Atty. Marwil Llasos explained the aim of the CFD to organize as many chapters in the country, in all dioceses if possible. The CFD is a lay-initiated and lay-run organization and movement. It holds a mandate from HIS GRACE ARCHBISHOP JOSE S. PALMA, DD of the Archdiocese of Cebu and the guidance and direction of REV. FR. LUCAS INOC of the same Archdiocese. The CFD has its own Constitution and By-Laws as a non-stock, non-profit corporation duly incorporated and registered with the Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission. The initiation of CFD Quezon City Chapter is the response of the youth of Quezon City to the challenges and responsibilities posed by the Year of the Laity.

In his talk, Atty. Marwil Llasos stated that CFD Quezon City must have the distinct flavor of being pro-life. He recalled that the Reproductive Health Law (RH Law) was passed in the Philippine Congress in Batasan which is within the territory of Quezon City. The City Council was also the first to pass a Reproductive Health Ordinance in the country. Ordinances favoring same-sex unions in the city have already been proposed. Hence, CFD Quezon City must take up the cudgels for family and life.

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PMA Cadet John Raven Bernarte introduces himself

Atty. Marwil Llasos likewise expressed the long-time dream of CFD National to establish a Chapter right in the very territory of the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC). The INC’s central headquarters is located in Diliman, Quezon City. With the establishment of CFD Quezon City, there is now a CFD Chapter right in the backyard of the INC. Atty. Llasos also mentioned that the Diocese of Novaliches is building the Shrine for the Youth (in Christ the King Parish) just beside the mammoth chapel of the Iglesia ni Cristo in Commonwealth, Quezon City. The Quezon City Chapter of CFD aims to counter the active proselytization of the INC in the Dioceses of Cubao and Novaliches.

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Mr. Manuel Protacio, CFD National Board Member gives an orientation during the initial meeting of CFD Quezon City

Mr. Manuel Protacio, CFD National Board Member gave an orientation on apologetics to the attendees of the initial meeting. He shared tips on how best to answer the questions of non-Catholics (cf. 1 Pt. 3:15). He conveyed the appreciation of the CFD National for the establishment of a new CFD Chapter in Metro Manila.

Thereafter, the Quezon City Chapter of the CFD was officially initiated with the selection ofad interim officers through consensus. As CFD Coordinator, Atty. Marwil Llasos was tasked to serve as Chairman of the new Chapter pending the regular election of the set of officers based on the Constitution and By-Laws of the CFD. Other officers were likewise selected by consensus. The officers are residents of either Cubao or Novaliches. The membership is open only for residents of the two dioceses comprising Quezon City although apologetics training, seminar and formation are available to residents of other areas to train them as leaders of the Chapter soon to be established in their locality.

The initial meeting of CFD Quezon City was concluded with the singing of the Salve Reginain honor of the Queen of the Most Holy Rosary of La Naval de Manila, the canonically-crowned patroness of Quezon City.

PRO DEO ET ECCLESIA

TAAS BA ANG BUHOK NI JESUS?

TAAS  BA  ANG  BUHOK  NI  JESUS?

Bro. George Caminade

 TAAS  BA  ANG  BUHOK  NI  JESUS?

Daghang  panahon sa kasaysayan nga gusto sa mga mangguguhit  nga makahalad sila ug nindot gyud kaayong larawan sa atong Ginoo.  Nianang panahona si San Agustin  miingon “ mahimong sayon  ra  kayo  sa mangguguhit  ang pagguhit  sa  larawan sa  pagkatawo  sa Ginoo apan dili  mahimong iguhit ang iyang pagka-Dios”.   Pinasikad sa mga kasaysayan  ug mga  apocryphal  scriptures,  sa tradisyon sa Simbahan  daghan  ug  aduna  gayoy  mga  larawan ang atong Ginoo.

PANGUTANA:

Sa   1 Corinto  11:14,

 

TUBAG:

Sa  kahimtang sa atong Ginoong Jesus  adunay panahon nga mahimong mubo siya ug buhok o  mahimong  taas pod,  dipinde sa atong gusto sa  Ginoo,  basta  maduol ug  makat-on lang ta sa paghigugma kaniya,  Filipos  4:8.

 

Adunay  mga punto nga angay natong lantawon kon nganong taas  kini;

 

1. Sa  Numeros  6:5  MB   “

San  Lucas  2:22  nga si Jesus  gihalad ngadto sa Dios

Ug sa  versekulo  34,   gipili siya sa  Ginoo alang sa kaluwasan sa daghang mga tawo.

2. Levitico  21:5-6  nga  dili pagaputlan ang buhok sa mga pari…

Hebrew  8:2   si  Cristo mao ang pangulong pari….

3.    dili importante  ni  Ginoong Jesus  ang atong lawas  kondili  ang atong kinabuhi,  San Mateo  16:26

 

4. walay mabasa nga teksto nga nagsulti  nga si Ginoong Jesus mubo ug buhok.

 

P. Ang panglawas sa Ginoong Jesus dili tinuod nga siya slim o natural lang tungod kay siya usa ka Karpentero ug ang maong trabaho bug-at sa ilang panahon tungod kay ang kasagaran nga balay nila halos mga bato,  busa dako gayod ug lawas ang Ginoo,  usa ka maskolado,  dili sama sa mga larawan ni Jesus karon nga morag artista. O diba?

 

Tubag:

 

Tinuod nga ang Ginoo usa ka panday,  San Marcos  6:3,   apan sa dihang ang atong Ginoo nagsugod na sa iyang pagministeryo  ang iyang  buhat  mao ang pag-adto sa mga dapit aron sa pagwali ug mga 30 katuig ang iyang panuigon,  San Lucas  3:23.  Ug sa 9:62 siya miingon nga “ si kinsa kadtong mosugod pagdaro nga magpunayg lingi-lingi dili angay sa akong Gingharian.”  Mao nga ang Ginoo sa iyang pagsangyaw  wala na siya mubalik sa pagpamanday, mikabat ug tulo ka tuig ang pagsangyaw niya,  siguro gyod nga na-slim gyod ang Ginoo.  Kay ngano,  naa ba tay mabasa nga si Jesus mibalik sa pagpamanday?  Wala  man tingali.  di ba?

 

Syempre guapo gyod ang picture sa atong Ginoo kay gimahal gud nato siya alang-alang atong mauton,  ingon  ana ba ang mahigugma mauton paghimo?  San Mateo 22:37.  Kana basis a atong tawhanon kahimtang,   apan alang sa Ginoo ang tanan  nindot walay maut.  Ang  maut mao lang ang atong tinan-awan,   di ba?

 

Catholic Church (Bro. RJ Seno) vs Missionary Baptist (Pastor Bernardo) – November 2, 2014 Debate

Catholic Church (Bro. RJ Seno) vs Missionary Baptist (Pastor Bernardo) – November 2, 2014 Debate

by John Carlo

 

On the All Souls day last November 2, 2014, God shows his power and defeat the Devil through this debate. The event happened at Cabaguio Davao City and it has been well attended by faithfuls from different Parishes all over Davao and even from Cebu. Roughly 200 people witnessed the debate with the majority from Catholics. Converted Pastor Bro. Noe Dora did a testimony in between the debate, and he really moved the Baptist faithfuls including Pastor Bernardo with his conversion experiences. Rev. Fr. Jorge S. Angga also testifies after the debate about the Catholic Faith, encourages the Catholic Faithfuls to stand firm in their faith. The Devil really hates the Sacraments, so he was trying to oppose that the Sacraments is not a teaching from Christ, but through Bro. RJ Seno who has been an instrument to defend the Catholic doctrines the Devil was defeated. The video will tell you the whole thing. icon smile Catholic Church (Bro. RJ Seno) vs Missionary Baptist (Pastor Bernardo) – November 2, 2014 Debate

I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” Luke 10:18

This is the full length of the debate.

click this ——–> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnupyrQVaqQ&feature=youtu.be

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Catholic Faith Defenders, Inc. Will be Evangelizing Abroad!

Catholic Faith Defenders, Inc. Will be Evangelizing Abroad!

By Bro: G-one Tampipi Paisones

 

Below is my letter to the board of governors and their reply regarding to the expansion of Catholic Faith Defenders in Abroad!

22 hours ago
January 8, 2015

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
Catholic Faith Defenders, Inc.
Philippines

Dear Brothers:

Pursuant to the mandate of our constitutions and by-laws that we should proclaim the true message of Christ by evangelizing the Catholic towards its Biblical teaching by establishing Catholic Faith Defenders in every parishes (Mat. 28:19-20); I am reporting to you that Brother Victory Feria had been organized CFD in abroad. Hence, He wanted to register and join the CFD National here in the Philippines.
Brother Victory Feria is based in Chicago USA; he is one of the few people who give us monetary aid so that we can maintain our websites from various forms of spam massages (Link: http://catholicfaithdefenders.com/donations). In addition to that; he will also serves as my co active-administrator in posting apologetics; doctrinal subjects; moral issues and articles pertaining to the Church as bride of Christ.
Furthermore brother Victory had been able to begin in establishing Catholic Faith Defenders in USA. He is very willing to undergo screening and other interviews so that CFD National will acknowledge CFD Chicago Chapter. Glory to God! Catholic Faith Defenders, Inc. is now an International organization.
For further information and contact him personally; please call me in my mobile number 09061810937; or just reply to this message.

Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!


G-ONE T. PAISONES
CFD Website Chief Administrator
catholicfaithdefenders.com
Ryan R. Mejillano

 Catholic Faith Defenders, Inc. Will be Evangelizing Abroad!

Copy G-one. Akoni will also soon organize Australia based CFD. Let’s pray for it. Fr Abe had already organized Missouri Chapter. Teewe had lots of fans in Middle East and follows his posts by OFWs. Let’s call to arms our defense for the Holy Mother Church. (“,)
20 hours ago
Abe Arganiosa

 Catholic Faith Defenders, Inc. Will be Evangelizing Abroad!

PRAISE THE LORD. SOON CFD UGANDA SHALL RISE.
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From Mary-hater to Marian devotee: A Protestant pastor turns Catholic

From Mary-hater to Marian devotee: A Protestant pastor turns Catholic

Link: http://www.cbcpnews.com/cbcpnews/?p=48534

MANILA, Dec. 5, 2015—A news post by ABS-CBN dated Nov. 14 claims a growing number of Filipino Catholics toy with the idea of leaving the Church, that is, if they have not already done so.

Citing a survey made by Social Weather Station (SWS) in April 2013, which shows that as many as 9.2 percent of Filipinos, or one out of 11, reporter Gigi Grande echoes the sentiment of Jesuit priest Fr. Joel Tabora that that the Church in the Philippines is “in trouble”.

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Former Protestant Pastor Noe Dora (left) tells his conversion story to Know The Truth host Marwil N. Llasos. (Photo: Raymond A. Sebastián)

What Grande has failed to report —  if only for sake of fairness — is that while there may indeed be an exodus of the faithful into either one of the tens of thousands of Christian and semi-Christian movements sprouting here and there over the last few decades, or who simply forsake organized religion altogether, there is a brighter, more hopeful side to the story — the conversions of non-Catholics to the Roman Catholic faith, often unreported in media.

Statue-smasher

If hundreds or even thousands of Catholics, many of whom Catholics only by name, bid their Church goodbye, then the reverse is just as true: non-Catholics are entering the Roman Catholic Church to get baptized, one of them is Brother Noe Dora of Cebu whose story, simply put, is one for the books.

Dora, who credits the Blessed Virgin for his conversion, is no ordinary convert who had “issues” with the Catholic Church.

According to him, he was a cradle Protestant preacher who has found the Truth after years of intensive study and discernment. Raised in a devoutly Protestant family, he loathed anything “popish,” that is, Catholic. From his father, he learned how to break statues of Catholic saints into pieces, considering them “idols,” and held anything “Roman” in contempt.

He had finished his ministry studies at the Asia Pacific Bible Seminary in Cebu City where he also spent 15 years as pastor and was founding president of the Pure Gospel of Jesus Christ International Ministries, Inc.

Loving Jesus’ Mother

For five years before his baptism in 2007 by no less than then Cebu Auxilliary Bishop Joselito Cortes who now oversees the Diocese of Dumaguete, Dora was secretly devouring various books, researching on the True Church Christ founded, and came to the conclusion that it’s none other than the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

He credits the Blessed Virgin as well as the Divine Mercy for giving him the courage and the understanding to finally cross the Tiber. Noe wondered, “If Protestants profess to really love Christ, how come they refuse to accept the Woman who gave Him birth? Why do they keep maligning her?”

To which he himself gave the answer: “A love for Jesus cannot be complete without a love for His mother.”

Dora also lauded the beauty and majesty of Catholic prayers. Before his conversion, he shared he was big on the “personal-relationship-with-God” thing, and therefore could not bring himself to pray for the salvation of other people.

The Divine Mercy changed that.

Quoting a part of a prayer St. Faustina Kowalska recorded in her diary, Dora declared: “For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and the whole world.”

Persecution from family, friends

His path to Catholicism, as one would expect, came with a price.

Like John Henry Cardinal Newman, J. R. R. Tolkien, Edith Stein, Charles Dawson and so many other converts before him, renowned and obscure alike, “Pastor” Noe had to deal with persecution, mainly from “disgruntled” kin and followers.

Fellow pastors accused him of receiving money from Catholic authorities. As a founder of his own church, the erstwhile pastor led a comfortable enough life. After his conversion which also meant the loss of his job, he had to make do with living in a humble hut, planting root crops to survive.

Visiting him once in his “bahay-kubo” on the countryside, the pastors only saw, much to their embarrassment, the Cross Dora had to bear for his new-found faith.

He was poor, penniless.

‘Converted pastors’

Unsurprisingly also, his own family practically disowned him as soon as word of his “betrayal” reached them. By his own admission, his father was a “church planter” and veteran debater, who groomed him into becoming his successor. One could only imagine the shock of the Elder Dora on learning that Little Noe had espoused the “Whore of Babylon”.

Despite the trials he had to go through, Dora said he is happy because he knows he made the right choice.

By a twist of fate—or more correctly, by the power of the Holy Spirit—his whole household, including his “Catholic basher” of a father, impressed by his courageous witness, took the road to Rome.

Today, Dora, now “Brother Noe,” heads the Association of Pastors Converted to the Catholic Church of the Philippines, a group that prides itself for having a  membership of over a hundred formerly anti-Catholic Protestant preachers.

To visit the group’s page, click https://www.facebook.com/convertedpastors. Noe tours the country giving testimonies of his conversion in different Churches.

On Jan. 31, he is scheduled to give a talk to the Children of Light (COL) Charismatic Community from 1:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. at 851 Oroquieta St., Santa Cruz, Manila where he will discuss the “Biblical and Historical Reasons behind His Conversion to the Catholic Faith”.

Dora’s full televised interview with Catholic lay preacher and lawyer Marwil N. Llasos on the apologetics program “Know The Truth,” is set to be aired soon over TV María. (Raymond A. Sebastián/CBCP News)

Copyist Error – Corrected

Copyist Error – Corrected

By Bro. G-one T. Paisones

  Copyist Error – Corrected

      Was Ahaziah 22 (2 Kings 8:26) or 42 (2 Chronicles 22:2) when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

(Category: copyist error)

=NIV OK (22 Lahat)

=NAB OK (22 Lahat)

 

 

Was Jehoiachin 18 years old (2 Kings 24:8) or 8 years old (2 Chronicles 36:9) when he became king of Jerusalem?

(Category: copyist error)

àNIV OK (18 Lahat)

=NAB OK (18 Lahat)

=AMP OK (18 Lahat)

 

 

Did David capture 1,700 of King Zobah’s horsemen (2 Samuel 8:4), or was it 7,000 (1 Chronicles 18:4)?

(Category: copyist error)

àNIV OK (7000 Lahat)

 

 

12. Did Solomon have 40,000 stalls for his horses (1 Kings 4:26), or 4,000 stalls (2 Chronicles 9:25)?

(Category: copyist error, or misunderstood the historical context)

=NIV OK (4000 Lahat)

=NAB OK (4000 Lahat) 1 King 5:6

 

 

13. According to the author, did Baasha, the king of Israel die in the 26th year of king Asa’s reign (1 Kings 15:33), or was he still alive in the 36th year ( 2 Chronicles 16:1)?

(Category: misunderstood the historical context, or copyist error)

=NAB

1 King 15: 33In the third year of Asa, king of Judah, Baasha, son of Ahijah, began his twentyfour-year reign over Israel in Tirzah

2 Chron. 16:1In the thirty-sixth year of Asa’s reign, Baasha, king of Israel, attacked Judah and fortified Ramah to prevent any communication with Asa, king of Judah.

 

Did Solomon build a facility containing 2,000 baths (1 Kings 7:26), or over 3,000 baths (2 Chronicles 4:5)?

            (Category: misunderstood the author’s intent, or copyist error)

            =LIVING BIBLE OK

            1 King 7:26 Four Inches thick = 2000 gallon capacity

            2 Cron. 4:5 Five inches thick = 3000 barrels of water

 

 

Both Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the totals for the whole assembly was 42,360, yet when the totals are added, Ezra – 29,818 and Nehemiah – 31,089?

(Category: copyist error)

=NAB OK

Ezra 2:65 not counting their male and female slaves, who were seven thousand three hundred and thirty-seven. They also had two hundred male and female singers. 66Their horses were seven hundred and thirty-six, their mules two hundred and fortyfive, 67their camels four hundred and thirty-five, their asses six thousand seven hundred and twenty. = 15623

Neh. 7:67not counting their male and female slaves, who were seven thousand three hundred and thirty-seven. They also had two hundred male and female singers. Their horses were seven hundred and thirty-six, their mules two hundred and forty-five, 68their camels four hundred and thirty-five, their asses six thousand seven hundred and twenty.= 156723

 

 

Did 200 singers (Ezra 2:65) or 245 singers (Nehemiah 7:67) accompany the assembly?

            (Category: copyist error)

            =NAB OK (200 Lahat)

 

 

When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice (Acts 9:7), or did they not (Acts 22:9)?

(Category: misunderstood the Greek usage or the text is compatible with a little thought)

=NIV OK

9:7The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone.

22:9″ ‘I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,’ he replied. My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me.

 

 

56. When Paul saw the light and fell to the ground, did his traveling companions fall (Acts 26:14) or did they not fall (Acts 9:7) to the ground?

(Category: misunderstood the Greek usage or the text is compatible with a little thought)

=AMP OK sa Act 9:7

Act 9:7The men who were accompanying him were unable to speak (for terror), hearing the voices but seeing no one

 

 

 

Did David (1 Samuel 17:23, 50) or Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19) kill Goliath?

            (Category: copyist error)

            =LIVING BIBLE OK

            2 Sam. 21:19 “At still another time and at same place, Elhanan killed the     brother of Goliath the Gittite

            1 Cron. 20: 5During another war of Philistines, Elhanan (the son of Jair)         killed Lahmi, the brother of Goliath….

            =TNIV OK

19In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jair e the         Bethlehemite killed the brother of f Goliath the Gittite, who had a spear           with a shaft like a weaver’s rod.

 

 

The number of fighting men of Isreal was 800,000; and of Judah 500,000 [2 Sam 24:9]

            The number of fighting men of Isreal was 1,100,000; and of Judah 470,000      [1Chron   21:5]

The account in 1 Chron twice speaks of “all the people” and “all Israel.” The account in 2             Sam does not. Thus, it is possible that the account in 1       Chron is more inclusive, while 2             Sam only deals with the standing         army.

 

 

 

 

David took seven hundred horsemen [2 Sam 8:4] or David took seven thousand horsemen [1 Chron 18:4]

=NAB OK (3 years Lahat)

=NIV OK (3 years Lahat)

=NRSV OK (3 years Lahat)